•   almost 8 years ago

Fake Votes?

Gaming the system with fake ChallengePost profiles seems quite easy. I hope somebody is taking care about that.

  • 19 comments

  •   •   almost 8 years ago

    I wouldn't worry about fake ChallengePost profiles: the submission with the most votes appears to be the work product of a team of guys at the American International University Bangladesh. I don't really see how they are eligible even to enter.

  • Manager   •   almost 8 years ago

    Hi Wade and Jim,

    Votes will be verified for integrity and the vote numbers displayed on the site may not reflect verification.

    The rules state:

    "Public votes may be displayed on the competition website, on a real-time basis, before being verified for integrity. These unverified votes will not necessarily reflect accurately the voting for the Popular Choice Award."

    Best,
    Peter

  •   •   almost 8 years ago

    @Jim W, The application you are taking about is submitted by me and for your better information I’m an American citizen.

    As the matter of fact of faking vote, I am not concerned about that as we are making huge campaign over Facebook and different blogs. And we also got number of fans are working to promote this application in every way.

  •   •   almost 8 years ago

    @Asif R, I was going to let my comment lie.

    However, since you bring it up you state at the end of your posts on the comments for your app "on behalf of Team Rapture". The rules state "...each member of a team must be independently eligible...".

    Are you saying that every member of Team Rapture is a legal permanent resident of the fifty (50) United States, or did Bangladesh become a US territory?

  •   •   almost 8 years ago

    I stand with Jim on this issue. I already emailed the support team in concern of this.

  •   •   almost 8 years ago

    According to Rule

    "Individuals submitting on behalf of teams or Organizations must meet the eligibility requirements for individual Contestants. An individual may join more than one team and/or Organization."

    Blueglass is submitted by me , I am its owner and I’m an American citizen.

  •   •   almost 8 years ago

    please, trust the system and the judging criteria. We cannot MAKE people vote for our application. We also cannot stop users from trying to con the system.
    then again my gf votes from the same ip address.. will her vote be denied?

  •   •   almost 8 years ago

    The gap in number of votes between the first two apps and the rest is remarkable, so just for fun, I started recording the voting behavior.
    This is what we have so far:
    http://www.webnumbr.com/blueglass-galaxy-note-s-pen-challenge
    http://www.webnumbr.com/sdm-galaxy-note-s-pen-challenge
    If you look at the actual numbers in
    http://www.webnumbr.com/blueglass-galaxy-note-s-pen-challenge.csv
    you'll notice that Blueglass got only one(!) vote between 4 and 9pm PDT. After that, they slowly gain traction again (peaking at almost 100 votes/hr) - just after 10am Bangladesh time.
    That doesn't seem right, but on the other hand there is no rule stating that the voters can't be from another country. The author's claim that the number of votes is due to facebook campaigns etc. is plausible. I'll let others decide whether or not this is fair. May the best App win (fairly).

  • Manager   •   almost 8 years ago

    Hello all,

    Many thanks for your concern. Please note that just because a vote appears on the site does not mean it is an eligible vote. You can rest assured that we are doing our utmost to administer a fair contest and that we will be fully investigating all votes before determining the winners.

    Best,
    Marny

  •   •   almost 8 years ago

    I just recorded a video. Sarah S has voted 3 times for SignDoc (#2 app) I saw the same thing on day 1 for bluegrass (app 1). Sad that people are resorting to this. Like I said, I have faith in the system, and I dont blame the developers, good luck to all the contestants.

  •   •   almost 8 years ago

    You did a very good job while recording the voting behavior Mr. Sam W. But, I might wanna say you missed something. You should have also recorded the hit of youtube video. They got big number of hits rather than others as well as vote.

    We shouldn't always raise negative concerns to discourage people. We should trust the system and respect the work of all contestants (whether they got vote or not).

  •   •   almost 8 years ago

    Hi folks, rest assured, not only do we vet the votes many different ways but we disqualify apps that break the rules about voting.

    Thanks.

  •   •   almost 8 years ago

    Hi Sam,
    Thank you for the tip about webnumbr.
    Webnumbr is a very nice tool, simple but effective.
    I'm start using it now to track my efforts with my phone calls. (focuspen)

  •   •   almost 8 years ago

    @Asif R: lol. if you are the owner, how come the copyright is with team rapture according to the notice at the bottom of the web page that you link to in your submission? There is even a handy hyperlink to who team rapture is and...it doesn't appear to include you! I'd say that fails rule B(viii)(a) and B(viii)(b). But, hey, I'm not judging.

    I'm done. Enjoy your prize 'on behalf of' Team Rapture.

  •   •   over 7 years ago

    Jim W = Niaz Morshed = Sam W

  •   •   over 7 years ago

    Its sad, that the organizer of the challenge didn't realize these fakes.
    in google play store the Softpro App (SignDoc Mobile) has only 7 comments and only about 500 downloads worldwide!!!!
    and in the galaxynotespenchallenge (which is, of course, not as popular and known by the public as the google play store) they have 15 comments and had about 1300 votes!
    this is unrealistic.

  •   •   over 7 years ago

    I will be uploading the video of signdocs fraudulent voting to YouTube.. one user voted 3 times almost consecutively.. I saw focus pen put up a good fight, a legit fight.

  •   •   over 7 years ago

    Hi folks, I'm Brandon, CEO of ChallengePost. We verified all the votes to see whether they were eligible according to the official rules. Those votes that weren't eligible (and we know which ones those are) weren't counted. We check votes by a wide variety of manual and automatic checks, during and after the voting period, and just because you see a vote appear on the site doesn't mean it's eligible.

    We also sent out several emails explaining the Dos and Don'ts of voting, and have relevant language in the official rules.

    Also, only one prize took into consideration the popular votes. The rest were voted on by the expert panel of judges. We take pride in having run an extremely fair competition (and hundreds others) and thank you very much for your participation.

  •   •   over 7 years ago

    Dear Moderator

    After reading out your DOs and DON’Ts I have got some question to ask.

    DOs:
    • Register for one account per person.
    o Is it registration from one computer (IP address) per person?
    • Vote once daily for each of your favorite submissions.
    • Tell a friend to vote. (Legally, of course.)

    DON'Ts:
    Attempting any of the following could be grounds for disqualification!
    • Register for more than one account per person.
    o How do you define “One account per person”? A participant’s university friend, roommate, colleague, etc. might use same laptop to sign in and vote for the app. So in this case the IP address of those accounts will be the same, and thus how your system will count those vote?
    • Use an automated process or similar device to vote, including but not limited to a robot, program, script, macro, or other automated means or other source.
    o Again if group of people use their university lab or cyber cafe to vote for an app then 300 users might use a same 30 computer to sign in and vote for the application. So isn’t it contradictory with your selection procedure of online voting? So in this case though 300 individual people are voting but will your system count them as 30 votes since they are from the same 30 computers? If so then you should have stated it clearly that “Registrant/voter should use an unique IP address or computer to caste their vote”. They cannot use any cyber café or university/office computer lap to cast votes. Dear Moderator, Isn’t it contradictory again because how can your system distinguish those votes?
    • Pay people or provide any other type of consideration in exchange for votes.
    o How will your system or the moderator who are validating the votes get to know that if any participants are providing any types of consideration in exchange for votes? Is it really possible to distinguish those votes? In your DO’s you said, “Tell a friend to vote. (Legally of course)”, again this statement is kind of contradictory. As stated above if any participants tell his/her friends then some of them might use the same computer/device or the same network to vote for. So is it really possible to tell which votes are coming from a friend from exchange/consideration or which one is “Legally of course”?

    In your challenge page you are stating 4918 follower, my question is how many are fake followers? If your voting filtering criteria is so strong enough then why are you not filtering those fake followers and stating the true numbers? Is it kind of promotional strategy to use higher numbers of followers though your system knows that they are fake numbers?

    Lastly, if you are organizing such event then your real-time voting system should be strong enough to fit your own criteria of filtering the “so called fake votes” and display the real number of casted voting. This kind of online voting of yours only give advantages to the organizer/selector to select or manipulate “Popular choice award”. So, what is the point of keeping this extra segment of “popular choice award” when you are keeping the option of manipulating by the moderator?

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